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Are you afraid for our future with President Barack Obama?
Yes, Obama and a Democrat Congress will undo 232 years of freedom 50%  50%  [ 10 ]
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 A Video Portrait of Barack Obama 
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The video pretty much speaks for itself. Pretty scary to think that this loon could be (hell, probably WILL be) our next President.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

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I don't think either candidate will improve anything themselves, I still have no idea who I will vote for...I do think our economy will improve regardless of which one comes into office though...but not necessarily because of either one of their "economic plans."

Either one would probably do a better job than Bush...


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OMG.....I want those 13 minutes of my life back. The source is clearly a far-right wingnut website, and anyone who really pays heed to what is said is so easily brainwashed. If you agree with those views of the video, I got some magic beans that will help you live forever, send me a pm and I'll give you further info.


God this video was racist and disgusting.


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OMG.....I want those 13 minutes of my life back. The source is clearly a far-right wingnut website, and anyone who really pays heed to what is said is so easily brainwashed. If you agree with those views of the video, I got some magic beans that will help you live forever, send me a pm and I'll give you further info.


God this video was racist and disgusting.


I didn't watch it, the guys voice was creeping me out...


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Yep, Barack Hussein Obama is not just an evil terra-rist, he's the anti-christ and ya'll better be scared; be very afraid. Now go vote vote for McCain because he's a wise old white man of Washington, and he's a war hero, so we can trust him.

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The video pretty much speaks for itself. Pretty scary to think that this loon could be (hell, probably WILL be) our next President.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036


you know, i've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt when we debate our different political points of view, whether we're talking about the war or economics. i've thought we can have political disagreements and respect each other regardless.

so i'll ask you very simply: do you agree with the anti-muslim smears in this video and its suggestion that obama is somehow a stealth radical muslim? do you think that's an acceptable part of our civic discourse?

do you think obama is a marxist? do you think he is an anti-white racist? do you think he's an anti-semite? do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?

i don't want any copouts about how he "associates" with folks who you think holds those views. the video you link to clearly suggests that obama, himself, is all of those things. do you share those views? really?


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What's sad is that both sides are going to bring up race instead of politics....the race thing is really being blown out of proportion...I have friends on both sides of this debate and we never seem to bring up race but every single time I go to cnn.com or foxnews or apparently now bobcatfans it seems like someone (both dem and rep) is bringing up race. I can't wait for this election to be over so that the whole race thing can be behind us (atleast as far as this presidential campaign goes)....it's getting really stupid on both sides.


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do you think obama is a marxist? do you think he is an anti-white racist? do you think he's an anti-semite? do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?


im going to pick and choose...i cant claim exp in all or any of the points...but yes...obama is a marxist..anybody that wants to redistrubte wealth from the rich to the poor is bad news in my view...and im not a rich person...i dont want my neighbor paying for my bloated health insurance/social security/ god knowa what....i dont want to pay for my bum ass neightbors
and i dont need my neighbors to pay for my bum ass.
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do you think he is an anti-white racist?

himself ...theres no way to know...the people he associates with...hell yes

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do you think he's an anti-semite


dont know enough to respond to it one way or the other

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do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?


for the simple minded that go gooo gooo gaaa gaaa about "change" hes prob awesomeness x10. i think the crap about the flag lapel was BS. but i do know the america obama wants i one i could have w/more powerful state govt ignoring his BS...im the demo obama is gettings fans of bum i know im going to college to be successful and make money and not be punished for making money


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He is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dangerous.

American Thinker has some stuff this week that would blow your mind with regard to liberation "theology" and black liberation "theology."


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so i'll ask you very simply: do you agree with the anti-muslim smears in this video and its suggestion that obama is somehow a stealth radical muslim?


No, I believe that he's a "Christian." But the more dangerous question is whether or not he subscribes to Black Liberation Theology, as his 20 year participation in and monetary support of Reverend Wright's church indicates.

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do you think that's an acceptable part of our civic discourse?


You don't think questioning someone's core values and philosophical beliefs are a valid line of inquiry? What is religion but a core of values and beliefs? Do you not think that his core values and beliefs shape his policy decisions?

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do you think obama is a marxist?


The answer to that is an unequivocal yes.

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do you think he is an anti-white racist?


Racist? Maybe not. But he obviously harbors some deeply seeded resentment for whites. He clearly believes that "typical white people" are inherently racist, just as his pastor, his wife, and his friend Father Pfleger do. (How that man can claim to be Catholic, I'll never know - but that's another discussion)

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do you think he's an anti-semite?


He's probably not, but if he encounters a white Jew, I'm sure he harbors some resentment toward them.

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do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?


Not necessarily. I'm sure he is happy enough being an American, but it is clear that his resentment of whites, his utter disdain for the military (linky-do), and refusal to observe even the most basic of traditions (hand on your heart during the National Anthem [even though it's really not that great of a song - America The Beautiful would be a better Anthem, IMHO]; the political tradition of wearing a flag pin on the lapel) show that somewhere in there, he resents America and what it stands for.

* An aside: I am reading a book called "The Law" by Frederick Bastiat, published in 1850, about the principles of free society. I highly recommend it!

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I'm going to try like hell to avoid political threads on here. I only have two items:

Black Liberation Theology. To qualify, I don't think this will influence an Obama presidency and I don't think he really subscribes to it. I went to the Church of Christ for 24 years, yet you might notice that my political beliefs (and many aspects of my Christian beliefs) don't align with it well. If you look at his background, he has typically separated any theological beliefs from the political. You'll be hard pressed to find a black man that came of age in the early 1980s that doesn't have this baggage. Also, you are assuming that as president, he would have some ability to force such beliefs through. He won't. We have two other branches of government that happen to be pretty balanced right now. Obama won't get support for radical change; if you look at American history there have been VERY few radical changes. Representative democracies, by their nature, are incremental.

Marx. Read Marx. Cover to Cover. Read his works other than the Communist Manifesto, because you must understand the background of the manifesto in order to understand everything being said. I would recommend The Poverty of Philosophy as a good starting point. Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy and Das Capital helps clarify some of his thought as well (both of those would compliment Bastiat well, as far as offering similar quality from another perspective). Friedrich Engels also offers a lot of insight into the basis of Marxism. Marx advocated communism, not socialism (has a longer history and Marx is but a small part in it). Marx advocated a "Worker's Revolution" by force. The Marxist accusation for Obama is a Red Herring. Now, you could make a plausible arguement that he advocates elements democratic/mixed-market socialism (think British Labour Party and Tony Blair), but that is far different from communism. For the record, my opinion is that Marx was an antisemitic lunatic.

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do you think obama is a marxist? do you think he is an anti-white racist? do you think he's an anti-semite? do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?


im going to pick and choose...i cant claim exp in all or any of the points...but yes...obama is a marxist..anybody that wants to redistrubte wealth from the rich to the poor is bad news in my view...and im not a rich person...i dont want my neighbor paying for my bloated health insurance/social security/ god knowa what....i dont want to pay for my bum a$$ neightbors
and i dont need my neighbors to pay for my bum a$$.
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himself ...theres no way to know...the people he associates with...hell yes

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dont know enough to respond to it one way or the other

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do you think he's unpatriotic and doesn't love america?


for the simple minded that go gooo gooo gaaa gaaa about "change" hes prob awesomeness x10. i think the crap about the flag lapel was BS. but i do know the america obama wants i one i could have w/more powerful state govt ignoring his BS...im the demo obama is gettings fans of bum i know im going to college to be successful and make money and not be punished for making money



Couldn't say it any better.

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No, I believe that he's a "Christian."


yet you promote a bigoted video that claims obama is a muslim and suggests there would be something wrong and radical about that anyway. that's trash.

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You don't think questioning someone's core values and philosophical beliefs are a valid line of inquiry? What is religion but a core of values and beliefs? Do you not think that his core values and beliefs shape his policy decisions?


questioning core values is one thing, but playing on irrational fears and bigoted stereotypes is quite another. the video you promote does precisely the latter. it's shameful, and i'm disappointed that you would promote it.

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The answer to that is an unequivocal yes (that he's a marxist).


that's precisely the kind of simplistic, absurd hysteria we heard from leftist extremists who called reagan a fascist because of some of his foreign and domestic policies. they clearly had no clue what a real fascist is, and you're demonstrating the same kind of ignorance about marxism.

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Racist? Maybe not.


yet you promote a video that makes the case that he is an anti-white racist.

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But he obviously harbors some deeply seeded resentment for whites.


the only thing that's obvious is that some folks feel the need to portray obama as something that he's not because they are morally and intellectually bankrupt. they're addicted to smears and innuendo. and you promote it.

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He's probably not (an anti-semite)


yet you promote a video that claims he is.

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I'm sure he is happy enough being an American,


yet you promote a video that claims he hates america and is unpatriotic.

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but it is clear that his resentment of whites, his utter disdain for the military (linky-do), and refusal to observe even the most basic of traditions (hand on your heart during the National Anthem [even though it's really not that great of a song - America The Beautiful would be a better Anthem, IMHO]; the political tradition of wearing a flag pin on the lapel) show that somewhere in there, he resents America and what it stands for.


disgusting. if your patriotism is so weak that you need a flag pin to show it, then i'm really sorry for you. and there are plenty of pictures of obama holding his hand over his heart during the national anthem (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp). so an instance in which he, perhaps abstent-mindedly, doesn't do so is somehow "proof" that he refuses "to observe even the most basic traditions"? and that editorial you link to is as absurd as the video to which you link. yet you post it as evidence that obama somehow has "disdain for the military."

i'm willing to debate political points of view with just about anybody, and i'll respect their point of view whether i agree with it or not. but you're promoting bigotry and trash with that video link. very disappointing.


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You are way too smart to believe that crap. I turned it off after :40. The problem is with our country is that we are so polarized that we do not think straight.

We have a POTUS with a 25% approval rating and this clown is thinking about bombing Iran.....and get this he states that he does not regret the invasion of Iraq but he does regret the rheotoric leading up to the invasion.

There is no doubt in my mind that this guy will go down as one of the worst US Presidents of all time. I thought Harding was bad but W even makes him look good.


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Casey,

You are way too smart to believe that crap. I turned it off after :40. The problem is with our country is that we are so polarized that we do not think straight.

We have a POTUS with a 25% approval rating and this clown is thinking about bombing Iran.....and get this he states that he does not regret the invasion of Iraq but he does regret the rheotoric leading up to the invasion.

There is no doubt in my mind that this guy will go down as one of the worst US Presidents of all time. I thought Harding was bad but W even makes him look good.



Wasting your time HornCat. According to the poll results, we got ourselves 10 (anonymous) Kool-Aid drinkers out there.


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