it is a catch 22 of perception
with the exception of UT and A&M (and Tech and UTD some now) most Texas public universities are seen as easy to get into and not all that great of a university as compared to some out of state "flagship"
but the reality is those out of state "flagship" universities are generally not that hard to get into
take LSU as an examplehttp://sites01.lsu.edu/wp/admissions/be ... uirements/
you need a 3.0 HS GPA and a 22 ACT or an 1100 (new) SAT
and they encourage students that do not meet those metrics to apply anyway
for Texas State as a comparison http://www.admissions.txstate.edu/futur ... ments.html
top 10% auto admit and unless you went to the worst high school in Texas you should have well over a 3.0 GAP to be in the top 10% and unless you are just stupid or again went to the worst HS in Texas if you are top 10% you should pull a 1100 (new) SAT or a 22 ACT
and for the top quarter it is a 1000 (new) SAT or a 20 ACT and really a 3.0 GPA is not going to get you into the top quarter at any DECENT or better HS in Texas much less a competitive one like discussed in this thread
so then you are in the second quarter and those Texas State admissions standards are just the exact same as LSU 1090 (new) SAT (OK 10 points different) 22 ACT
so again anyone with a 3.0 GPA at a decent to good HS in Texas would have to meet the second tier Texas State admissions which means they would meet the LSU admissions as well
so the "perception" for many is "go to LSU"
pretty much exactly the same as Texas State and LSU
OU are actually just nonsense they really do not list them out like most do
Arkansas is similar to OU kind of nonsense basically "apply"
Ole' Miss (they get a lot of Texas students)
out of state is easier than Texas State IMOhttp://admissions.olemiss.edu/applying- ... /freshmen/
but the dilemma is for Texas State and others to improve their PERCEPTION they have to improve their admissions standards (even though these out of state "flagships" don't) because they are a "flagship" of that state and thus they have the research, the larger offering of professional degrees, often time the athletics ect that people equate with a "good university"
but of course as admissions become tougher you end up turning students away and they go to easier to get into out of state schools.......and it takes much longer for the fact that you are now attracting highly competitive students with tougher admissions to improve the perception and you still need the research, degree offerings and even some athletics offerings to round out the "perception"
I think as it stands now Texas State would benefit from a well studied and well planned small increase in admissions standards that is based on a great deal of analysis of student success with current admissions and then a well planned and publicized announcement about that increase
possibly even going with a "medium" increase broken up over 3 years or so with a small bump and then a slightly bigger bump 3 years later
UTSA of course lost some meaningful enrollment with their single very large increase and that decision was made pretty quickly overall, but after that single year drop they have held steady and started to grow slightly and as of now they are getting some "young university" accolades and some other publicity and their graduation rates are showing marked improvement as well so it is paying off there
overall the graduation rates for Texas State are very good especially relative to the admissions standards so Texas State is doing a good job of graduating students, but I think to see any improvement on those numbers it will have to probably be in conjunction with adjustments to admissions standards as well
the other factor is research productivity and here again Texas State is doing extremely well and really they are actually exceeding even their own best expectations in their strategic plan for research.....Texas State has had some "very good years" on the grant funding front and who knows if that will keep up as these things go up and down to a degree, but the new degree offerings and the faculty and students that some with that help as well, but there again it needs to be publicized and it needs to be publicized PROPERLY since a general comparison to a flagship from another state is not going to be a good comparison.....it needs to have the context of "recent growth" and "graduate enrollment" ect in that comparison to make it look it's best