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2014 numbers are out for Research and Development

Total R&D for 2014

http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2014/html ... ST_19.html

$39,265,000

Federal Sponsored R&D for 2014

http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2014/html ... ST_21.html

$14,243,000

here are the 2013 numbers

Federal R&D 2013

http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/datatables/her ... ST_20.html

$14,908,000

Total R&D 2013

http://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2013/html ... ST_17.html

$37,053,000

so a slight decline in Federal Sponsored, but an increase in Total Sponsored from 2013 to 2014 and these numbers do go up and down to a degree, but I think it is pretty clear that Texas State is on the right path and recently the numbers have really started to move up

This should only increase with the new engineering building and new engineering programs as well and as you can see for the 2104 numbers engineering is only just getting rolling so who knows what those numbers can move to as those programs grow and mature

It should also be noted that these numbers are not "restricted research" as the metric for the THECB NRUF funding goal of $45 million annually, but generally growth in these numbers means growth in Restricted Research numbers and those numbers should be out soon from The State of Texas


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as expected Texas State moved from the classification they were in (below doctoral) up past doctoral and to the classification of "doctoral higher research"

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/l ... n.php&clq={%22ipug2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22ipgrad2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22enrprofile2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22ugprfile2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22sizeset2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22basic2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22eng2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22search_string%22%3A%22Texas+State%22%2C%22level%22%3A%22%22%2C%22control%22%3A%22%22%2C%22accred%22%3A%22%22%2C%22state%22%3A%22%22%2C%22region%22%3A%22%22%2C%22urbanicity%22%3A%22%22%2C%22womens%22%3A%22%22%2C%22hbcu%22%3A%22%22%2C%22hsi%22%3A%22%22%2C%22tribal%22%3A%22%22%2C%22msi%22%3A%22%22%2C%22landgrant%22%3A%22%22%2C%22coplac%22%3A%22%22%2C%22urban%22%3A%22%22}

they have changed up the terms somewhat and so for the 2010 classifications this would have been RU/H which is just below RV/VH

RU/VH is now "doctoral university highest research"

it is important to remember that these are NOT RANKINGS and The Carnegie Foundation specifically states they are not rankings, they are not to be used or looked at as rankings, they imply no similarity of educational quality between universities in the same classification and there is no accounting for the quality of the research conducted only total research numbers

BUT what is important about this classification for Texas State specifically is barring a change in the system used by the US Snooze to differentiate between "regional" and "national" universities which has always been Carnegie Classified Doctoral research universities are "national" for the US News and others are regional or liberal arts now Texas State will be ranked in the national universities by US Snooze and not in the regional and this should start with the 2016 rankings which should come out about 10 months from now

I would imagine Texas State will be in the "unranked" of those which is outside the top 200, but over time with proper planning and effort there is no reason Texas State cannot move into the top 200 and obtain a numerical ranking in the next 5-6 years, BUT that would be an aggressive goal and it would take work and private dollars and probably even some "manipulation" of the factors involved

there is a slight chance that Texas State would have a ranking for "public universities" in the national category and they will also have the "high school counselor" ranking that only "national universities" receive and that will at least give an idea of how Texas State is viewed relative to other NRUF participants and aspirants in Texas and how high school counselors in general view Texas State or even if Texas State can crack the "public university" numerical ranking

so all in all some progress in at least seeing what a "national" perspective might be on Texas State and a better comparison of how the flawed yet popular US Snooze compares Texas State to others


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This is one area where Trauth has excelled. Thanks for info

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as expected Texas State moved from the classification they were in (below doctoral) up past doctoral and to the classification of "doctoral higher research"

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/l ... n.php&clq={%22ipug2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22ipgrad2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22enrprofile2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22ugprfile2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22sizeset2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22basic2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22eng2005_ids%22%3A%22%22%2C%22search_string%22%3A%22Texas+State%22%2C%22level%22%3A%22%22%2C%22control%22%3A%22%22%2C%22accred%22%3A%22%22%2C%22state%22%3A%22%22%2C%22region%22%3A%22%22%2C%22urbanicity%22%3A%22%22%2C%22womens%22%3A%22%22%2C%22hbcu%22%3A%22%22%2C%22hsi%22%3A%22%22%2C%22tribal%22%3A%22%22%2C%22msi%22%3A%22%22%2C%22landgrant%22%3A%22%22%2C%22coplac%22%3A%22%22%2C%22urban%22%3A%22%22}

they have changed up the terms somewhat and so for the 2010 classifications this would have been RU/H which is just below RV/VH

RU/VH is now "doctoral university highest research"

it is important to remember that these are NOT RANKINGS and The Carnegie Foundation specifically states they are not rankings, they are not to be used or looked at as rankings, they imply no similarity of educational quality between universities in the same classification and there is no accounting for the quality of the research conducted only total research numbers

BUT what is important about this classification for Texas State specifically is barring a change in the system used by the US Snooze to differentiate between "regional" and "national" universities which has always been Carnegie Classified Doctoral research universities are "national" for the US News and others are regional or liberal arts now Texas State will be ranked in the national universities by US Snooze and not in the regional and this should start with the 2016 rankings which should come out about 10 months from now

I would imagine Texas State will be in the "unranked" of those which is outside the top 200, but over time with proper planning and effort there is no reason Texas State cannot move into the top 200 and obtain a numerical ranking in the next 5-6 years, BUT that would be an aggressive goal and it would take work and private dollars and probably even some "manipulation" of the factors involved

there is a slight chance that Texas State would have a ranking for "public universities" in the national category and they will also have the "high school counselor" ranking that only "national universities" receive and that will at least give an idea of how Texas State is viewed relative to other NRUF participants and aspirants in Texas and how high school counselors in general view Texas State or even if Texas State can crack the "public university" numerical ranking

so all in all some progress in at least seeing what a "national" perspective might be on Texas State and a better comparison of how the flawed yet popular US Snooze compares Texas State to others



Do you know how often do they update these classifications? What makes us "doctoral university highest research"?


Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:56 pm
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The Carnegie Classifications are updated every 5 years

so 2010....2015 ect

in this case they are a bit late because the Carnegie Foundation turned their classifications over to Indiana University and an institute they have for looking at university metrics

they have not updated the qualifications they used for the classifications for 2015 yet and there seems to be some mistakes in some of the classifications like OkState and some other schools being "higher" instead of "highest" while some other schools being "highest" that are really more like "higher"....but who knows they could have changed the system somewhat

and in the 2010 classifications when it was "doctoral" and RU/H and RU/VH (research high and research very high) basically it went by the number of Doctoral degrees awarded (it was a low number something like 20) to make the "doctoral" and then the total research dollars to make RU/H or RU/VH

in 2010 they went by 2009 metrics and Texas State awarded 17 Doctoral degrees that year so they missed the cut by 3 to be a "doctoral university" in the 2010 classifications

if Texas State had made "doctoral" then from 2011 until today Texas State would have been in the "national" rankings for US Snooze because the US Snooze used the Carnegie Classifications as the basis for "national" or "regional" or "liberal arts" universities and to be a "national" US Snooze university you have to be at least a "doctoral" Carnegie Classification

so now barring some change by the Us Snooze next year Texas State will be a "national" university

as far as above "doctoral" for classifications by Carnegie it goes pretty much by research dollars there were a few other small criteria I believe like total doctoral degrees that counted a little bit and something else, but it was mostly research dollars as calculated by the NSF

and in 2010 to get to RU/VH (now doctoral highest) you had to have about $100 million in total research....I think for the RU/H you had to have something like $30 or $35 million in total research I believe it was below $50 million.....(which is actually research AND development as reported by the NSF) with "development" being the act of making a discovery into something useful and or disseminating information about that discovery VS "research" which is pure discovery of something or the finding of new information on something (they have definitions somewhere I can't remember them but that is the gist of it)

so really it is "research and development" dollars that Carnegie uses once you are in the "doctoral" classification and to get in the "doctoral" in the past you needed to award at least 20 doctoral degrees per year the year before the classifications were released


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Figured that I would give credit to the original post by putting this here. So here is the link to the actual Carnegie site with the change.

Ironic for a site that classifies academic institutions didn't verify our current enrollment when they made the change.

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/l ... anicity%22

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tpopt wrote:
Figured that I would give credit to the original post by putting this here. So here is the link to the actual Carnegie site with the change.

Ironic for a site that classifies academic institutions didn't verify our current enrollment when they made the change.

http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/l ... anicity%22



they go off of the prior year (2014) data for all info


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Guess it isn't ironic.

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new research numbers are out and Texas State is going balls out

here are the restricted research numbers

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

Texas State had a $7 million dollar jump from $20 to $27 that is pretty huge

restricted research of $45 million is the #1 qualification needed for NRUF funding before anything else matters

it looks at this time that UTD will be the next to qualify probably in March of 2016 they should meet the $45 million in restricted research for two years in a row and they meet 3 of 4 other categories and the endowment of $400 million is there, but it was only there for the last few months of FY 2015 so there is a chance (I am not sure we will know when the report comes out in a couple of months) that UTD might not meet that criteria for 2015 so they would need to qualify this year and next and would get NRUF funding in 2017

unfortunately with the stock market there is a chance they could even drop below $400 million in 2016 as well and again if it needs to be for the full year that would set them back as well

UTEP also had over $45 million in restricted research, but unfortunately for them their president is not interested in pushing for NRUF funding so they are a long way from qualifying

Texas State pushed past UTSA by $2 million in restricted research....as one can see though these numbers do go up and down and UTSA seems to be on a little downward trend and the big jump for Texas State might not last, but still it is a sign that restricted research is on the up and continuing a trend and that strong jump shows it is being pushed and even if there is a small decline next year Texas State is still moving forward quickly in that area and it should only get better with a new engineering building and some more engineering degrees and faculty

right now it is UTEP, UTD, UTA, Texas State, UTSA, north Texas state in terms of restricted research dollars

and again unfortunately for them barring a change in leadership and the university in general UTEP is in "not trying" mode

UTD has 3 of the needed 4 other categories and again it will depend on endowment and if it is the whole year or not that matters.....either way they should qualify in 2017 at the latest and 2016 at the earliest

UTA has 2 of the categories, but they should get a 3rd this year if they graduated over 200 PhDs again in 2015 and they have also moved up to 3 National Academy members as well with 5 needed so I would imagine over the next couple of years they will be hiring at least 2 more of those which would give them 4 of the needed 4 categories then they just need that $45 million in restricted research as well

from there really who knows....UTEP is a "give up" (sadly for them and the state) and from the Texas State standpoint they meet 1 of the needed 4 catagories, but the reality is "freshman class" could be met if there was a need pretty much as soon as there is a need

so that is 2 of 4

the problem after that is 200 PhDs graduated is a LONG WAY away and you simply can't just ramp that up, $400 million in endowment is a long ways away, and while "high quality faculty" can be met with effort (5 national academy members) you need probably $3 or $4 million per one of those in endowed dollars to lure them away and make it worth it for them and to set them up with a lab and worker bees.....I think Texas Tech hired 3 in a year the year before last and UTA of course 2 last year so you can get them to come with the dollars and that is probably something Texas State needs to start looking at.....attracting one or two over the next couple of years to be ready to get more as needed

"high quality graduate programs" again who knows....Texas state offers the needed number of programs, their masters graduation rates are high enough and the PhD rates are almost high enough, but it is the review of 5 degree plans that need to have AAU like metrics for those 5 programs that is the unknown to meet that category

Geography and Aquatics are obviously two choices of the 5, but who knows if they are really AAU like....they are highly respected, but it is more on graduate funding, post docs, publications and things like that and who knows what 3 other programs there would be to choose from

probably the most realistic option is simply crank up a $260 million fund raising campaign with an aim for most of it in real RIGHT NOW dollars not life trust or "software" or things like that (although you take all that comes) and push for the endowment to get to $400 million

the truth of the matter is you are not going to get national academy members without private dollars, you grow your research with private dollars, you support PhD candidates with private dollars and private dollars get you there

if you drug it out over 6 years you would probably be wrapping it up about the time the $45 million in restricted research was coming around and you are "there"

at this point I think it is pretty clear that after UTD it will be UTA that qualifies for NRUF funding and that will probably be in 5-6 years from now if they can start to grow their restricted research again after several years of hitting a plateau....pretty much everything else is in place or close to being in place already they need two national academy members (or similar) and they need some more PhDs graduated (not many)

but the reality is Texas State could be right behind them and that would mean Texas State has gone from not even being an "emerging research university" when the NRUF started to being the 5th out of 8 to qualify and that would be quite an accomplishment in my opinion

I will take a second to say this as well

there is what I would call some "dumbassery" over on the football forum directed at Dr. Trauth.....I can understand people are a bit upset at the AD (I think even that is overblown and stems from fools without real world expectations and over blown goals)

but only an asshat would look at te academic performance of Texas State under Dr. Trauth and even remotely criticize her for ANYTHING and the fact of the matter is she pushed the athletics goals as much as anyone and is responsible for the successful movement of that as well and make no mistake that move was a massive success

only a total and complete shit for brains would be angry at her for anything much less be calling for her to step aside that is the height of stupidity and ignorance and only a complete imbecile would drag athletics to the door of an extremely successful academic president

you are a fool if you are angry at her and that is being nice you are really a lot more ignorant that that

also the latest total research numbers are out as well I have included 2011 to 2015 to show the growth of Texas State and others

University of North Texas $25,422,991 $29,890,743 $32,463,048 $29,397,075 $29,181,911


Texas State University $33,486,998 $36,663,663 $37,053,191 $39,264,791 $47,694,256


Texas Tech University $142,762,792 $132,542,194 $137,563,727 $153,728,769 $157,745,568


University of Houston $93,756,014 $92,779,251 $107,201,997 $108,765,832 $124,076,111


The University of Texas at Arlington $65,959,123 $71,381,648 $77,651,828 $71,068,534 $77,009,512


The University of Texas at El Paso $69,480,347 $71,956,741 $76,740,368 $74,493,354 $85,268,099


The University of Texas at Dallas $93,230,313 $90,700,157 $98,842,525 $99,727,535 $98,550,582


The University of Texas at San Antonio $56,833,861 $54,395,160 $51,417,892 $45,238,591 $51,112,129

sorry about the format it is what it is, but those are the numbers....$47.7 million in total research not to shabby

also total endowment numbers are in from the THECB and here is 2011 to 2015 as well

University of North Texas $102 $114 $122 $133 $137

Texas State University $84 $100 $113 $131 $136

Texas Tech University $475 $490 $546 $674 $661

University of Houston $591 $579 $637 $685 $656

The University of Texas at Arlington $81 $89 $102 $120 $126

The University of Texas at El Paso $175 $179 $196 $221 $217

The University of Texas at Dallas $252 $274 $318 $387 $392

The University of Texas at San Antonio $82 $90 $100 $114 $122

one can see the stock market taking a crap matters and from the looks of it UTD might not get credit for $400 million for 2015 so who knows it might be 2017 before they qualify we will know how that goes in March when the next NRUF report comes out

and the Texas State endowment I believe does NOT include some money that funds the McCoy College of Business there has always been a bit of a discrepancy there, but I believe when that money was given way back it was put into a privately managed endowment apart from the actual university managed money....it is still basically "university managed", but the THECB does not count it

the NACUBO endowment study should be out before the end of the month and it always has Texas State higher than what the THECB has and again I believe that is because they count all endowed money for the benefit of the university even if not under actual full university management

for instance in 2014 the NACUBO had Texas State @ $161.2 million while you can see the THECB has $30 million less and that $30 million should match up with what the McCoy money would be worth today

If anyone has any insight on that I am all ears

if anyone wants to look at more numbers they are here

http://www.txhighereddata.org/Interacti ... veMain.cfm

that link changes occasionally with the year (2014 now) going up a year as the new info gets added so if you happen to have that link make sure it is not the 2012 or 2013 link because it will not have 2015 info in it

graduation rates look to be down slightly, but that looks to be the case for most of the emerging research universities, faculty (full time FTFE) to student (full time FTSE) is too high at 1 to 29, but it is holding stead for Texas State while a bit worse for several others....honestly might be time to just slap a $100 dollar new faculty fee on students and get in $3 million and hire about 25 or 30 new faculty....I know I know not popular to raise tuition (really shouldn't), but that could matter overall IMO

or perhaps crank back up another fund raiser and endow some faculty positions and get that metric up (endowed positions) and hire some of those National Academy members and get a couple of more engineering programs off the ground and fund some more graduate students as well and bump up the endowment and get that faculty to student down to about 24 or 25 where is is more respectable

that could matter for the Us Snooze as well on their "class size" metric and the "alumni giving" metric as well and now that Texas State will be a 'national university" for them starting next year well time to make hay and see if Texas State can push into a numerical ranking over the next 5-6 years

overall there is "info" for academic followers like me to feed on and not a bad year for Texas State overall


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Wow. Stopped mid way through but thanks for info. Hopefully we continue to move forward.

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NACUBO endowment numbers are out

http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowme ... Values.pdf

Texas State is $164,333,000 up about $2 million from last year which is not bad considering some Texas universities and others are down slightly

as expected the NACUBO number is higher than the THECB number again because I think the McCoy money is in a "foundation" and THECB does not count that

north Texas state did not report probably because they were in the middle of a financial audit most of last year to see how inept the are financially, but theirs is probably $141 million or so still unless there was some issue with the audit (I don't think so, but who knows)

Texas Tech and UH report "system" numbers, but they are available from the THECB for each university

the UT System reports as a system as well, but their numbers can be found quarterly from UTIMCO

UTA $123.3
UTD $409
UTSA $125
UTEP $180.75

so Texas State is not too bad in comparison

still $240 to go to get to that needed $400 million probably time to start to plan a fund raiser/capital campaign


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well the new numbers are out for 2015 from the NSF (the government is so efficient that fiscal year 2016 ended nearly 3 months ago for most universities and yet they are just now 15 months later getting us the 2015 numbers.....way to get right on that!)

one can see all the numbers here

https://ncsesdata.nsf.gov/herd/2015/

also these are for research AND development and they are for either ALL dollars of federal dollars in the pic below....."development" has a meaning exclusive of strictly research I can't recall what it is specifically, but it is something like "teaching about a new discovery or concept or taking that new discovery or concept and applying it to something"

the THECB should have the "research" (without development) numbers for 2016 (way to be more efficient Texas) out sometime by the end of the year or early next year and those will include Total, Federal, State, Private and University sponsored as well as the all important "Restricted" which is what matters in the process to obtain NRUF funding

as we can see below Texas State is chug chug chugging along and doing quite well for itself relative to the overall starting point and the starting point for degree offerings

I can only think that with a new engineering building, those programs maturing, a couple of more research based PhD programs starting and a couple of more engineering programs starting that things will further progress

I will end this now for the sake of brevity (for once)

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new research numbers are out as well as some TRIP matching numbers and endowment numbers

Restricted Research numbers for 2016 are out now

http://www.thecb.state.tx.us/reports/xls/1260.xlsx

opens in Excel

here is the breakdown with 2016 and 15 numbers

University of Houston 66,245,457 $64,394,171

Texas Tech University 55,444,324 $48,774,414

The University of Texas at Dallas 50,140,842 $45,111,033

The University of Texas at El Paso 47,357,593 $46,821,190

The University of Texas at Arlington 33,290,329 $31,614,826

Texas State University 30,079,770 $27,244,557

The University of Texas at San Antonio 29,375,785 $25,026,676

University of North Texas 12,914,276 $16,097,336

so it was another good year for restricted research for Texas State now only $15 million away from the needed first qualification for NRUF funding

to be CLEAR these numbers can go up and down by pretty big amounts from year to year, but so far Texas State has a pretty string record of growing theirs year in and year out for the last several years

from 2011 when Texas State was at $19,078,112 to now 2016 when Texas State is at $30,079,770 that is an increase of $11,001,658 or an average of $2,200,331.6 per year

at that pace it would be 6 to 7 years before Texas State meets the $45 million in restricted research and that would need to be for two years in a row.....and of course 4 out of 6 other qualifications needed

new NACUBO Endowment numbers were released recently as well

http://www.nacubo.org/Documents/Endowme ... Values.pdf

again an OK year for Texas State with a slight bump to $164,749,000

at least it was not a decline like many universities faced, but not a major gain

that means Texas State is $235,251,000 away from $400 million which is one of the 6 possible metrics for NRUF qualification

if you divide that by 6 (the number of years it might take Texas State to get close to $45 million in restricted research then Texas State needs to start adding about $39,208,500 ($40 million) per year to their endowment to get it to $400 million in that same time period

based on recent enrollment metrics Texas State is meeting the freshman class from top 25% of HS Class metric

so that would make 2 metrics of 6 that Texas State is meeting

I think that endowment and faculty quality are the two others Texas State has the easiest chance to meet

the faculty metric needs 5 faculty members in the National Academies or Noble Prize winners

with an endowment heading to $400 million Texas State should be able to land 5 of those types of faculty members......but of course Texas State needs to start pushing the endowment to head in that direction NOW

the final numbers that are recently out are TRIP numbers both donations and matches and paid matches and backlogged matches

http://www.thecb.state.tx.us/reports/Do ... Format=XLS

the good news here is Texas State has a decent amount of matching dollars coming to them

the first number $6,162,934.60 is the amount of matching dollars for donations that have been made and that SHOULD qualify for a match, but the donations need a final review to make sure they qualify and the second number $9,582,255.00 is the amount of matching funds due for donations that have been reviewed and qualified

so all totaled up Texas State is due about $15.7 million in TRIP matching dollars from the state

Texas Tech, UH and UTD are all due more, but Texas State is next after that in total dollars due so that is a nice showing for Texas State

Tech, UTD and UH have been taking the lions share of those donations, but since the program has started Texas State has not done to bad and considering that Texas State was not even eligible to be in the program for for the first 3 years they have managed to catch up and pick up a fair amount of the available dollars over the last couple of years

of course it would be better of Texas did not have a backlog of money to payout and Texas State already had the money in hand, but Texas has made a commitment to try and clear that backlog and it would be worse of Texas State was waiting on chump change while others were waiting for a whole lot more

as it is Texas State has gotten in there and started getting a decent amount of eligible donations and when that $15.7 million gets paid that is a hell of a lot of money to do something research related with......and again that just adds fuel to what Texas State has been doing numbers wise with research

the NRUF report should be out in a few weeks or less and I think it should show Texas State meeting the fresh class metric for the first time and the other metric they have been meeting Institutional Recognition of Research Capabilities and Scholarly Attainment (Phi Kappa Phi membership)

so a highly aggressive goal would be in 5 years Texas State managing to do $45 million in restricted research and meeting the current two other metrics and having an endowment of $400 million and 5 "big time" faculty members and doing that for two years in a row and qualifying for NRUF funding in 6 years

an aggressive goal would be to do that in 7 years and get NRUF funding in 8 years

a "should do it" goal would be to qualify in 8 years and get funding in 9 years

either way as of right now Texas State is right there with UTSA to be the one that is most likely to qualify after Texas Tech and UH (already getting funding) and UTD (this could be the first of their two years of meeting all metrics) and then most likely UTA after that in 4 or 5 years

as of now it looks like UTEP is just still not going to try and north Texas state is actually moving backwards as a slow pace


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