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I agree that the offense looked bad, but.... at half we had around 160 yards or so. So we were on pace for a little over 300 which isn't great but obviously way better than what we ended up with. Then our offense barely had the ball in the 3rd and then we put in a true freshman QB so we barely had any opportunities to move it the second half.


We had 117 yards at half which put us on pace for 234 yards for the game, which is atrocious.


I'm not doubting either of you on the yards, but where do you find those stats so readily?

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I'm not doubting either of you on the yards, but where do you find those stats so readily?

uh, the places where stats live?

drive chart tab gives yds for each drive:
https://txstatebobcats.com/boxscore.asp ... h=football

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I just remembered from eyeballing the stats after the half. Apparently I remembered incorrectly.


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The only team in the country who has a fewer yards per play than us (3.0) was UTSA (2.8 ).

Of out 169 yards of TOTAL offense, 68 came on 3 plays.

We were 1/13 on 3rd downs.

We didn't get into the red zone at all. Not once. Zero times. We ran zero plays from inside the 20.

ANYONE who watched that game and says, "we were actually able to move the ball," is smoking crack.


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To help illustrate our offensive woes. Here's our drive summary.

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i had a dream that one day size of student body enrollment equated to quality of football team then i woke up and the scoreboard indicated we were tied with texas southern


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We had thirteen drives. In more than half of our drives, we gained 1 yard or fewer.


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Didn't Withers have a very successful offense at JMU? Why has our offense been so bad since he got here? Why can't he replicate what he was able to do there?


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Didn't Withers have a very successful offense at JMU? Why has our offense been so bad since he got here? Why can't he replicate what he was able to do there?


Lack of depth/talent/personnel. And position coaches that just aren't good at developing talent. TE coach comes to mind. Despite the lack of experience, I actually think Mateos is a good coach to have. No clue if Kuhr is good as an OC or not.

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Year 3, and the excuses for why we suck just keep coming . . . . .

. . . same ol' Bobcats.

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if we had signed that fool to a 4 yr contact rather than 5 i guarantee you he wouldnt be dicking around with the fan base right now in yr mf 3!! any contract weve ever signed has always been in favor of and protected the coach except for maybe oc herman who walked on us


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Now for good news!!!

Although it won't help us this season 2019 might be a decent year for our lines:

3*** OG Marquise Simmons cystal ball is warm on TXST
https://247sports.com/recruitment/marqu ... tInterests
https://twitter.com/biggambino12/status ... 2582669312

3*** OG Texas native Evan Henry's only P5 offer is CU
https://247sports.com/recruitment/evan- ... tInterests

3*** OG Zelenski out of Humble... we are his only FBS offer
https://247sports.com/recruitment/jack- ... tinterests

3*** OG/DT Harris we are his only FBS offer
https://247sports.com/recruitment/ellio ... tinterests

3*** DE out of Westlake Neil no other offers in state of Texas
https://247sports.com/recruitment/david ... tinterests

2**DE Richmond out of Spring.... no ther FBS offers
https://247sports.com/recruitment/dariu ... tinterests


Other than these guys above most other lineman who have offers from us are pretty much booked up unless we were to pad the win column somehow this season.

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Didn't Withers have a very successful offense at JMU? Why has our offense been so bad since he got here? Why can't he replicate what he was able to do there?


That's very misleading.They lucked into getting a very talented grad transfer at QB who had been the starter at Georgia Tech. Check out what the QB they had there for both years, Vad Lee, did statistically. He was a one-man wrecking crew as both a passer and rusher. Quite simply, he was far more athletic and a far better player than anyone else on the field.

In 2014, he threw for 3500 yards AND rushed for nearly 1100 yards (before sacks). In 2015, he was putting up better numbers, but he got hurt in their 8th game of the year and was out for the rest of the season. As a result, they ended up losing that 8th game. The 9th game? They lost that, too. Their 10th game? They beat a 4-7 team by 3 points after scoring the winning TD with 17 seconds left. They won their 11th game. Their 12th game? They lost that one, too.

So, when they lost their QB, they ended up going 2-3 and very easily could have been 1-4.

The "success" of their offense relied on getting lucky to get a freak from Georgia Tech and wasn't due to any great schemes or coaching.


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Now for good news!!!

Although it won't help us this season 2019 might be a decent year for our lines:

3*** OG Marquise Simmons cystal ball is warm on TXST
https://247sports.com/recruitment/marqu ... tInterests
https://twitter.com/biggambino12/status ... 2582669312

3*** OG Texas native Evan Henry's only P5 offer is CU
https://247sports.com/recruitment/evan- ... tInterests

3*** OG Zelenski out of Humble... we are his only FBS offer
https://247sports.com/recruitment/jack- ... tinterests

3*** OG/DT Harris we are his only FBS offer
https://247sports.com/recruitment/ellio ... tinterests

3*** DE out of Westlake Neil no other offers in state of Texas
https://247sports.com/recruitment/david ... tinterests

2**DE Richmond out of Spring.... no ther FBS offers
https://247sports.com/recruitment/dariu ... tinterests


Other than these guys above most other lineman who have offers from us are pretty much booked up unless we were to pad the win column somehow this season.


How is that good news? Half of those guys don't have a single other FBS offer. Why do so many people get excited on here when we offer or get a commit from shit that nobody else wants? Take a damn hint - Texas is one of the two most recruited states in the country. Everyone has seen these kids. It is very rare that a kid with no other offers turns into somebody worthwhile at the FBS level.

On top of that, you're thinking it is good news that we offered a kid who has a Colorado and Colorado State offer? We struggle out recruiting UL-Monroe. Have you ever been to Monroe? What makes you think we can out recruit Colorado or Colorado State?


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They lucked into getting a very talented grad transfer at QB who had been the starter at Georgia Tech.

that's very misleading. they got lee because withers had recruited him when he was at north carolina.

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