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not my number - that was from withers' press conference.

Gotcha. Probably some attrition from last semester to this one that will come out in Spring ball. I’ll probably still post my list and can be corrected as I want my spreadsheet to be as close to right as possible.


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let me take this opportunity to recall my previous post on nsd shake out:
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i wonder if we'll see guys signing in the couple of days after the dust settles, kind of like the udfa signings after the draft, or if it will be the same as usual w/ 99.9% signed before noon. just have a feeling that the if/then situations aren't as settled as years past, and the dominoes may not start falling until that weds. haven't seen hardly any verbals since nsd1, and i feel like this is the time of year when all that is getting firmed up.

this has played out quite a bit today. tamu has benefited quite a bit from it as many of their nsd2 announcements are from guys who got squeezed out of their 1st/local choice. saw it w/ tommy bush as well, who had to wait and see if uga would have room for him (he was their last guy in). hopefully we're all over the scraps and can grab some more of those *** types.

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Just FYI, I saw Tyrese's 247 profile a few months ago when he was committed to UAB and figured he was only committed there because his less talented brother(cousin?) was also committed there. Antonio Heard, also of Teague Texas, also ended up decommiting from UAB. Not sure if he will be signing with Tyrese. https://247sports.com/player/antonio-heard-45572807

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Looks like Taj has been taken off of our 247 commitments and heard bumps us up to 5th in the sun belt.


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Really like Tyler, Dotson, Jarron, Jah, and Nico. This year it's nice to have more than 1 favorite commit. Surely I will get to see at least one of these guys light it up on the field.


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Let me note this is the 1st recruiting cycle to have 2 signing dates. So there was a lot of new situations that I'm sure occurred be it how many to sign early and how many maybe like Taj that are hearing from other schools to either not sign first day and hold out or decommit with plans to sign elsewhere. With that out of the way, we signed 23

Lets talk about the signees by position:
QB Vitt
-Withers stated he was a steal and expect him to compete for starting job. He was the highlighted player Withers talked about more than anyone else. Jones and company better bring their A game this spring.

TE Caillouet & Lanam
-Both physical blocking TEs that can catch the ball. He noted to not have that his first two seasons at TXST. Sounds to me he likes their ability to be block first TEs.

WR Shereard, Aragon, Hopkins, Graham
-Talented group but young. Height is the winner here with a 6'4, 6'1, 6'0, and 5'7. Many of their videos shows them just out jumping opponents so I couldn't see any highlights of then running routes well. I'd say 2 will play and likely 3.

OL Moore, Cooks, Macadory, Momerelle
-Long and athletic. If you take a look at their video, there really is not a slow OL off the snap of ball. Moore and Cooks are very lean but quick and Macadory seems quick out of the snap at 290lbs while Momerelle just moves things out of his way. I'd expect 2 of these guys to be in our 2-deep.

DL: Ezidore, Lynch, Schaefer, Calvin
-Longer on DL with only one player 6'1 and the rest 6'3-6'5. I'll be the first to note only 1 is physically ready to play while Schaefer listed at 6'4/235 is second biggest and rest are 225. My concern is 3 DL undersized that may need to play. I'd like to get a JC DE like the Tulsa signee we recruited. Add that one JC DE to provide immediate depth. Just my 2 cents.

LB: My guess (Withers)
-Coach Withers noted having players that can play S, OLB, or CB. That being said I think his son is quite physical in video and is built more like a OLB than a S. I didn't see a speedster to play S/DB. Just my hunch.

CB: Morris & Pope
-I think Pope will play CB at this time with Taj Bickham not signing. This could change and we take another CB but for now I think Pope is capable of moving to CB. Morris has natural instincts at CB.

S: Anthony, Heard, Johnson
-These guys will provide a lot of depth at possibly both S and CB, if needed.

K/P: Kessler, Stewart
-Both will compete for kicker and punter. Needed to improve here is an understatement. Did note concern with punting and punting accurately to an area on the field (location).

If I had to say which players I really like based on video, I'd go with Vitt; Hopkins; Macadory; Ezidore; and Morris. Others I like for their potential is Cooks, Moore, Momerelle, Schaefer, Calvin, Pope, and Aragon. I like the others but I'll need to see how they pan out. My sleeper is Sheread that could be used as a specialist (kick/punt returns), WR, and RB in certain formations. He may need a year to develop but he's got speed to burn.

In 2017, we played 11-12 signees out of 24 (we signed 26 but Pesa and Mayes didn't make it in due to health or grades). If we were to expect similar averages of close to half, it will be interesting who is ready not only physically but mentally prepared.


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Overall I’m pretty excited with this class now especially if we can add a little more talent not just depth to OL and DL. But in year 3 I’m finding it hard to understand how Withers didn’t have his ducks in a row today in terms of numbers. I just feel like since he’s been recruiting this 2018 class for nearly 2 years now it shouldn’t have been a lot to ask for him to have found 26 or 27 scholarship caliber signees before today. If he says we will have 75 scholarships headed into fall camp we could have 80 scholarships (a full squad nearly) if he had found 5 more scholarship level players that he had available.

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just got back from the nsd dinner and picked up a few tidbits...

i was right on number of available ships, and actually low. theoretically we could take 29 or 30 this year, but won't. we will try to sign several more. why not 30? because it could have consequences down the road and they'd rather have more consistent class numbers year over year. not sure i really buy that 100%, but it's a legit enough reason. ***i didn't ask how on earth we could get to 30, i'm just taking that at face value. no clue how that would be possible.

bickham's situation may simply be family related. they either have, or soon will, move to louisiana, and he may be looking to play at one of those schools. my guess is he'd be welcome if he ultimately decided he wanted to be a bobcat, but i didn't ask specifically.

i feel like there was something else, but can't remember right now...

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Consequences down the road? I agree Saul, I don’t buy that either. What could be any worse than our current consequence of not having a full FBS roster as in the case right now? If we can add 7 more scholarship players by all means let’s go out and find them so we can have 82 this fall

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Thanks Saul!

Well, first as we all know.. OL Pesa didn't qualify last year and OL Mayes was not physically able to play so those ships are likely part of the 27-28 we knew about. To add any more, my only guess is if someone is graduating early like McDowell did last season. If a current player graduated early, he's met the APR (retention and eligibility points) to move on; therefore, their ship could likely be used in this class once that current player graduated because they met all NCAA requirements. Over the last 2 years, we've had 3-4 do this.

After signing 2 kickers/punters, I'd figure a guy like Sherman may be graduating early and may not come back if he's not going to play. Just a hunch (no facts to back this up).

Well, the consequences is something that happened to A&M in Sumlin's 1st true class (after his first season as coach). I've noted this before. He signed 30 and less than 13 became regular players with 5-6 transferring, 2-3 kicked off team, 1-2 quitting/injury and of the 6 LBs they signed only 2 ever played minutes at LB. This was a huge issue under Sumlin. I'd even argue that class hurt Sumlin's team develop because following years they were having to fix the holes that led to adding JC OL/LB and taking transfer position players to try and quick fix things. We don't need that.

Bring in players to fit holes right now. If not, I'd rather give to PWOs that deserve it.


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Thanks for the update, Saul. Interesting bit on Taj. It seemed as though he has been looking for a better option throughout this entire process, although it's not unbelievable that it could be family related.

As for the 4+ remaining signees, where are we expecting them to come from? JUCOs, transfers, grad transfers, unsigned HS players? I'm assuming it will be a combination, but wondering if we were looking to finish out the class with a few players who could contribute sooner rather than later.

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Consequences down the road? I agree Saul, I don’t buy that either. What could be any worse than our current consequence of not having a full FBS roster as in the case right now? If we can add 7 more scholarship players by all means let’s go out and find them so we can have 82 this fall

i don't think they can find 7 more really good players to come here, so they are going w/ a legit reason. look - you don't want 7 more 2* guys, do you? that's just tying up scholarships w/ guys who never see the field, which is what we had from fran. if they could pick up 7 more guys like heard and vitt and roach and daniels, they probably would.

a reminder that this isn't the official party line, and wasn't presented to the room, but my understanding based on a personal conversation.

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Thanks for the update, Saul. Interesting bit on Taj. It seemed as though he has been looking for a better option throughout this entire process, although it's not unbelievable that it could be family related.

maybe he knew it was coming, was conflicted, who knows? kids are hard enough to read in the best of situations.

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As for the 4+ remaining signees, where are we expecting them to come from? JUCOs, transfers, grad transfers, unsigned HS players?

no se.

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Just FYI, I saw Tyrese's 247 profile a few months ago when he was committed to UAB and figured he was only committed there because his less talented brother(cousin?) was also committed there. Antonio Heard, also of Teague Texas, also ended up decommiting from UAB. Not sure if he will be signing with Tyrese. https://247sports.com/player/antonio-heard-45572807


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Well, there are a few ways we could add.

First is signing freshmen players still out there. We have signed LB Lewis (backup on 2-deep) and LB Gavin Graham (backup on 2-deep) so if you can find guys that are worth it and fit a need, I don't mind.

Second JC and we've had a 50/50 in this from guys like TE Rogers playing, LB Loyd, WR King but then there was Tiggs (played sparingly), Pesa (didn't make it in), and Mayes (physically unable to perform). Don't forget adding WR Hays late too (he's been a good one). Its a risk no doubt.

Third is grad transfer and we've been 2 for 3. None being superstars but starters in QB Williams and NT (can't remember name) but other QB Printz didn't pan out.

One thing to keep in mind, we may wait out some high school kids grades (test scores/HS GPA) to see if they become eligible. That makes more sense based on Withers' comments about "We may add 2, 3, or 5 more" comment. They'll likely look at all options and see which is worth it. I think grad transfer would only be an option if its a perfect fit at this point.

Still expecting 1-2 ships will be given to PWOs. We'll see.


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