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Contrast to UTSA Frank Wilson who were in a similar situation to us at the
beginning of last year


Withers may not have be in a similar position at the beginning of the season last year as Wilson at the beginning of last year but our squad should be similarly positioned now to how UTSA was positoned at the beginning of last season no doubt.....




Why do people keep saying this lol.
It's not true.

To quote Phil Steele's 2016 Season preview of both UTSA and Texas State,

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UTSA: New HC Frank Wilson steps into a good situtation.. UTSA is coming off their weakest season ever.. but that was with just 5 returning starters.. they go from #128 on my Experience Chart to #27 so a lot of factors are pointing to an improved record.

TxSt: This clearly looks like a rebuilding year as they rank just #111 on my Experience Chart.. and they lose 33 lettermen which is 45.2%.. it will be an accomplishment to top last years' 3 win total.




Jesus people, cmon

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Bobbumman wrote:



VP98 wrote:
Contrast to UTSA Frank Wilson who were in a similar situation to us at the
beginning of last year


Withers may not have be in a similar position at the beginning of the season last year as Wilson at the beginning of last year but our squad should be similarly positioned now to how UTSA was positoned at the beginning of last season no doubt.....




Why do people keep saying this lol.
It's not true.

To quote Phil Steele's 2016 Season preview of both UTSA and Texas State,

PhilSteele wrote:
UTSA: New HC Frank Wilson steps into a good situtation.. UTSA is coming off their weakest season ever.. but that was with just 5 returning starters.. they go from #128 on my Experience Chart to #27 so a lot of factors are pointing to an improved record.

TxSt: This clearly looks like a rebuilding year as they rank just #111 on my Experience Chart.. and they lose 33 lettermen which is 45.2%.. it will be an accomplishment to top last years' 3 win total.




Jesus people, cmon



I think what they mean to say is:

Why does this program, that we all follow and love, always seem to be behind that start up program to the South of us?

Why/How did they make a bowl game before us?

Why, in the only game we've played them, did we manage to lose so badly?

Why are we likely to get curb stomped by them again this year?

When are we finally going to get our collective shite together and stop being content with "moral" victories?

Yeah, I think that's what they really mean to say . . . .

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Why does this program, that we all follow and love, always seem to be behind that start up program to the South of us?
Just the last couple years

Why/How did they make a bowl game before us?
Cause 6 wins weren't automatic in 2013 and 2014

Why, in the only game we've played them, did we manage to lose so badly?
Fran

Why are we likely to get curb stomped by them again this year?
Larry

When are we finally going to get our collective shite together and stop being content with "moral" victories?
When Larry's gone

Yeah, I think that's what they really mean to say . . . .


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Maybe it's my maroon colored glasses... But I don't think we'll get curb stomped this year.

I am not sure we pull off the W, but I don't think it will be lopsided.

I hope I'm right at least.

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I hope that you're right too . . . :sign:

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w/ you rev. think we compete this year. not against colorado, but everyone else. wyoming could be tough as well w/ their qb - couple of bad plays is a 20+ loss even in an otherwise slugfest. not to mention 2 road games at elevation, sandwiched around the defending conf champ, and utsa. that 4 game run is brutal.

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usatoday: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 528788001/

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Georgia Southern won't go 5-3, they'll be worse.
Coastal won't go 4-4, they'll be worse.
Idaho won't go 3-5, they'll be better.
New Mexico State won't go 1-7, they'll be better.


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I think 3-9 is not a horrible prediction for us. Using the +/- 1 game, I think 4-8 is where we'll be.

And I agree, NMSU will not go 1-11.

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Personally 4-8 is what I'm hoping for this season.. 7-5 next year and 9+ the following


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If we get 3 to 4 wins, I will be happy as long as we are more competitive than last year in the Sun Belt games outside of Troy and App State.


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No one knows what the 2-deep looks like but my best guess has us with 10 Seniors (Anyama, Banks, Davis, King, Loyd, Luna, Rosemond, Scrade, Tiggs, D Williams), 5 Juniors (Aneke, Awad, Griffin, Mizerak, Watts), 17 Sophomores (Brewer, Brown, Daniels, Graham, Lemons, London, Mittie, Morbley, Rowland, Rushing, AJ Taylor, AD Taylor, Vatterott, Vinson, Waddy, Washington, White) and 12 Freshman (Carlile, Lilly, Dimery, Foster, Harris, Haydel, Jones, Jordan, Newman, Pierce, Roach, Rodgers).

We're going to be a very young team again this year (2-4 wins) but next year and the year after we should be competitive (6-9 wins).


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I'm sick and tired of the 'young' card being thrown out there...gets really old
there's plenty of other high turnover schools out there that win with Freshman and Sophmores...not every player needs as much developing as others....if you recruit the right players they don't need substantial development

Withers has said before "you go out and go recruit talent", you only seldomly develop talent as juniors and seniors... that's how you beat other teams in his eyes

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Bobbumman wrote:
there's plenty of other high turnover schools out there that win with Freshman and Sophmores


What schools are part of the "plenty" of programs that win with Freshman and Sophomores? I know teams in the SEC, Big 12. etc. who throw out some 4 and 5 star true freshmen, but there's only like 1 or 2 in the starting lineup on offense or defense...maybe.

I am unaware of any successful teams whose core is made up of Freshmen and Sophomores. I am interested in learning about this though, so please enlighten me.


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Good, USA Today has us going 5-17 over the current two seasons. I presume that includes three wins against FBS opponents. That is a real job-saving record. I am skeptical of even that record. We were no match for NM State last year with or without the bus crash. Also Rose III is back and will probably shred our defense. I don't know about GA State but they do have some excitement around the program with the new facilities formerly Turner Field that they are moving into this year. As I said before, I really disagree with Withers running off all of those players. Building a culture BULLSHIT! He's never even been anywhere long enough to build a culture. There is no time for his ego trip culture building. Make the best of what we have in the short time you are here before you are shown the door. I'll start thinking about who I want to coach our team. Maybe somebody from Hermann's staff would like to come down. Well, jumping ahead here. We need to get this upcoming dumpster fire over with before we can start thinking about that.
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