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this is what each position is looking like headed into HBU:

DT: trouble; depth and talent are lacked
DE: I think we'll be fine
NT: is looking pretty impressive for runblock, could use an extra player or 2 for depth
CB: think it looks a lot more solid than what Withers thinks; lots of talent and it's a postion we have some of the most depth
S: CBs may have the edge with depth but I think S will have some of the most talent on the entire field
LB: Anyama and Vinson are both pushing 240lbs as well as at least 4 others in this group, as it's already been said strongest group- but stay healthy
OT: in a slightly better position than OG; I think the talent might be here but the depth is a little more of a concern than even OG.....the one to really watch step up this year will be Washington he may be the biggest sleeper surprise on the team
OG: like OT the depth will also be a struggle but the talent is lacked that OT has..maybe our weakest unit other than DT...we are completely undersized here; I expect big things from Rowland...this is his unit to lead
K/P & PR and KO return: special teams will continue to struggle again; Kaba was really good -- had his fair share of illtimed shanks but we had nobody behind him
I would hate to see this unit struggle more than OG and DT but it very well could... I will consider no fumbles and minimal bobbles on PR or KO return a huge victory
...other than not having anyone to pin punts or send KO through the endzone this year our coverage was a huge concern last year and that needs to improve substantially
QB: I think this unit will also be one of the most pleasant suprises since Nealy; (relative to our standard) this will be a good unit for us this year and a great one for us next year
Expect these guys to put up better stats than Jones next year; the one thing about Jones is that he was doctor Jeckle Mr Hyde... didn't do well under pressure or read a D and I don't think these kids will be like that which will be an improvement for us
What I liked about Jones was on play action passes and called QB runs and plays where he took off running early l

WR: while this was our most concerned unti when we entered the 2016 season after losing all of our players.... I don't agree that this will be our most talented unit but it is without a doubt the one with our most depth
C: i think we'll be just fine here even though we're very undersized
RB: we may not be able to see these guys break through this season with an undersized line but the 2018 recruiting class has a heavy emphasis on OL so that and having Tutt back next season we'll see some pretty incredible things from both RB and QB
TE: we're in great postion here at least for this season


Bobbumman...

Gotta ask. Do you get to see practices or have some insiders? The reason I ask is I can understand some things here and there but its been noted that Rowland will play RT yet you say he's a guard. That seems odd.

DT had listed at one point Mittie (270), Taylor (280), Patton (285), and Wilkins (250) per that board... so what is exactly wrong with this position??? I would think having 2 returners to DE/DT would be a advantage not a disadvantage.

Rest seems likely. Again, just wondering how you have heard these things?


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if that's the case, this disgraceful learfield web management company (or whoever controls it for that matter) still hasn't switched them over if in fact that's true

72 Jacob Rowland G 6-5 290 So. 1L
51 Jordan Mittie DE 6-3 270 So. 1L
95 Nick Wilkins DE 6-2 250 Fr. HS

what do we know about what kind of production if any we'll get from Patton or Wilkins? at this point the only thing we can rule out is anyone on OL being redshirted. as stated I think we'll be pefectly fine at DE, I'm not worried about DE i'm worried about DT

traditionally our program's achillies heel has been letting opponents' rushing game get to the corners, get the edge on us and run up and down the sideline. I have no problem leaving some of our most talented front 7 (Mittie and Taylor) on the edges in hopes to maybe upend a few of those typical 10 yard tosses and sweeps that we like to allow. having speed and size at DE will maybe get us off a few blocks and stop the runs from getting to the secondary

to some extent we've been okay in the past at the runstop up the middle (at least more so than on the corners) so it doesn't concern me to sacrifice some of our bigger guys to the edges

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Here is what Lancer posted on first page:

DT - Jordan Mitte
DT - Dean Taylor
DT - Caveon Patton
DT - Nick Wilkins

NT - Grant Lanza
NT - John Lilly
NT - Sami Awad (red text after)
NT - Gjemar Daniels (blue)
NT - Darrell Antwine (green)

DE - Ish Davis
DE - Jeff Banks
DE - Kumonde Hines (red text after)

From this, I'd be more concerned at DE with Banks (240) and Hines (225) listed currently in size. A lot could have changed in last 2 weeks as I wouldn't be surprised Mittie is at NT while Lanza is at DT due to strengths compared to weaknesses. One, Ish Johnson noted in article over summer Mittie was "best NT option" or something like it while someone else noted Lanza to DT. Who knows since none of us hear enough about practices. This is where I have to trust our coaches like McCray to figure it out, which I think he will.


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You guys are too worried about labeling NT, DT, DE.

The best 3 or 4 guys are going to get the most playing time. Banks/Hines are too light to play NT and Awad/Lilly are too slow to play end...and the rest of them are pretty interchangeable.


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https://twitter.com/BillCulhane22/status/896434948072030208

Position comments:
-At nose, Awad and Patton was noted as playing well when asked specifically about those 2 DL
-WR depth improved with 3 freshmen WRs (noted all 3) and walk-ons (noted Dennis Johnson JC walk-on).
-Noted move of Hines to DE for 3rd downs and said he's up to 235. Also, he noted Hines is not their usual DE where they like them to be 250-260 but they need a specialist for 3rd downs or something like that.

It sounds to me that when Hines comes in he can be used as a decoy (drop back allowing more LBs to blitz while he covers or rush with other 1-2 LBs in multiple ways. I'll be intrigued to see if McCray has some 4 down lineman looks in his defense where a guy like Hines is used as DE but again can drop back or rush. He'd make more sense in a 4 down lineman scheme but that is not a 34D formation; yet, it can be a hybrid like Coach Thompson did with Banks and at times Berry. Remember, this is year 2 for returners so more can be put into scheme than last year, including new defensive schemes or defensive fronts with more NTs and size to utilize.


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Per Keff - RB Jaren Watkins left the team not long after practices began..."of his own accord"

yes, he's still on the roster but he's gone. Someone asked how he looked or was he injured because they didn't see him out there today. That was the reply.


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Based on a reasonable inference Damian Williams is probably unofficially back...would be interesting and you would have to believe this late in camp that Willie still gets the nod to start against HBU

Why is it obvious something changed for him? His twitter has been silent the entire month of August until now

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Here’s my 100% conjecture take on Damian Williams. I believe Damian was recruited to be the starting QB/mentor to 4 (but really 2) freshmen QB’s. His job is to bring stability to the huddle of a young offense and teach the young QB’s how to prepare, act, and behave. All of this might be a good foundational piece for the beginning of a coaching career on Wither’s staff after this season.

Williams obviously holds some (if not all) responsibility in whatever happened with his GRE paperwork resulting in him having to take the test again. If Withers wants him to be a mentor and an example for these young guys, then he will make an example out of Williams for not being organized and ready.

I’m betting that Williams has passed all of his GRE stuff but is suspended from the team until he does whatever penance that Withers wants him to do. Unlike the 3 flakes last year that were suspended for whatever actions they took and were given the opportunity to correct their behavior, I think Williams will do the right thing.

Again….100% conjecture.


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I saw that too. Before that tweet (9 hours before), he tweeted an image of a backpack and the letters "SZN".

For those younger folks, enlighten me what SZN means, please!


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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=szn

It's an abbreviation of "season."

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See the convo on twitter with what looks like a Miss St. player. Looks to me like Williams will be back.


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I was about to ask about a scrimmage but I can see they had one the other day. God bless the scrimmage. :eatemup:


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With this hurricane here all weekend, lets talk some position changes or upgrades and likely starters below.

Offense:
-QB added Williams last Friday/Saturday to group of 4 (with Kelley still not yet throwing).
My guess is we'll see all 3 QBs in this game and based on everything I've read or heard in interviews, I'd have to go with Jones, Gipson, Williams going into game one. My guess is as the following 3 games come will determine who will be the QB for most of season.

-RB added Jaylin Nelson to group of 4 other RBs on ship in Taylor, Brown, Smith, and Tutt injured being #5.
My guess is that all 4 will play but I'd have to guess Taylor or Brown starts with Smith and Nelson getting reps later in game.

-TE Have not heard much about this group (good or bad).
My guess is not much will change from Schrade, French, Rushing, and Rogers. Since not much as been noted about this group, I have to assume the reps will stay the same.

-WR has been noted to have improved from year 1 to year 2 noting many newcomers like Dennis Johnson, Haydel, Twyford, Bedford.
This is the first position noted by Withers to have improved the most in talent so it makes it more difficult to know who will start but I expect Watts, Morbley, and maybe Hays to start with returners King and Luna (remember, they were both injured spring) ready to move up with the freshmen/transfers listed above. Just the way the coaches have talked about the QBs ability to throw it deeper than last season tells me we plan to put out there speed.

-OL has had a few changes as they look for their best 5 and then backups: Foster started 2nd scrimmage at LT with Mizerak at RT, Rowland back and forth between T/G, to name a few things I've heard.
Guessing here is as tough as any other position but consider last scrimmage Withers felt the OL did much better with Foster at LT, Mizerak at RT, Rowland likely back to guard, and Brewer at C... My guess for last players goes to Jaquel Pierce.

Defense:
-NT with Awad and Patton (I was wrong with Patton, thought he'd be a good DT) as they have the size inside needed.
Everything sounds like we have the physical NTs we needed to improve the DL. It would seem is Awad, Patton, then either Lilly or Daniels are the spare.

-DT Mittie and Lanza
As NT, this seems pretty obvious with Mittie and Lanza here but a third I'm not sure with Wilkins out the season. My guess is a walk-on will get a chance here or Taylor could be the spare.

-DE Davis and Dean Taylor; Hines a 3rd down specialist
Again, seems like Davis then Taylor then Hines as specialist but it may be that Banks is spare. We'll see.

-ILB Loyd and Daniels at one position; London and Lewis at other (Withers is excited about these 4).
Withers specifically noted these four so it is as good as done deal here with likely Brannon and Rubin backing up each position.

-OLB Graham moved back to OLB; Anyama and Vinson on one side; Griffin/Coleman on other.
I'm not sure if those 4 will be the 2-deep but unless Graham can break in or another, its seems pretty likely.

-CB Waddy, Taylor, Eastling, Aneke, Roach
It should be interesting to see how this plays out, especially if Taylor is out game 1. I believe Freeman/Culhane noted that Waddy and Aneke were starting in scrimmage (yesterday's recorded radio bit) but will that hold or can Eastling and Roach push for job.

-S Rodgers moved to position (likely telling about either seniors or youth at position)
VERY telling that Rodgers moved to Safety, especially with 3 seniors at position with 2 freshmen.

K Ripley put on ship
WR Luna put on earlier per someone either on here or twitter


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Nick Castillo just tweeted the depth chart for the HBU game.
Only one senior stating, Schrade at TE. That doesn't count QB Williams. He is a transfer grad student. No more seniors on the two deep on offense. Only one senior, Jeff Banks listed on the two deep on defense. We will be young.

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Canaquedista Man wrote:
Nick Castillo just tweeted the depth chart for the HBU game.
Only one senior stating, Schrade at TE. That doesn't count QB Williams. He is a transfer grad student. No more seniors on the two deep on offense. Only one senior, Jeff Banks listed on the two deep on defense. We will be young.

I believe Tiggs, Elijah King, Easy should be listed as seniors. Not sure why they are juniors on the depth chart. Official roster has them as seniors. That makes seven and five starters (counting Williams).

Morbley not on the depth chart at WR is surprising. Has he been injured?


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