Heard this morning on ESPN radio (can't remember the guest) a 5 year ban on football is completely within reason. Very possible another BCS spot will open up, maybe Boise to Big 10 instead of the Big East and a current CUSA member to the Big East.

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Big 10 wouldn't just kick Penn St out. Just let them serve their ban. Also Boise has a 0% chance of wet going to that conference. They like and want AAU universities and Boise is barely above a juco in education.

If they ever considered replacing PSU (and they won't) they would have many others in mind first. Notre Dame, Texas, Rutgers, Maryland, Pitt, Syracuse, etc

Texas would not go Big 10. The Big XII would have to completely die first or they would go to the SEC

I only said Texas because they were in the mix a few years ago. With their network now it wouldn't happen.

I like Norte Dame finally joining a football conference. They would have to leave all of their historic rivalries behind, but they would have plenty of competition and exciting local matchups; which will spur more rivalries. They would save money on travel, but i'm sure they would hate making such a huge move.

ND would never join due to strong anti-catholic backlash against them that occurred from Big10 member institutions when they were first approached about joining 50 years ago. It's still a major sore point with them and their alums.

You learn something new everyday. It also answers my lifelong questions about why ND is independent. It always made sense to me that they just join the Big Ten, because of geographic benefits. Now I know why

That NBC contract has a lot more to deal with it. Although I despise ND being shoved down my throat every year, ratings show every time they play, more people watch. The last thing they need is more money, and with their Olympic sports still in a conference, coupled with the new playoff, and their discussions withe the ACC and orange bowl, their back in a position of power, similar to the Big 12.

Now back on topic. My personal opinion is Penn State should get a one year Death Penalty. SMU kids got paid, Penn State kids got molested. You can't spin this any other way.

SMU got caught paying players and put on probation. They continued the payments and Bill Clements, President of the BoR authorized a coverup of such. You may remember him as one of our past Govenors. It was way worse than just paying players. Went all the way to the top.
I don't think any Penn State kids were molested. Just helpless underaged kids from the community being molested in full view on campus. Again, the institution was valued more than those expendable kids.
Death penalty three years! Why should this just be applicable to football?

I just don't know why the kids in the programs at Penn St have to pay for the crimes of the adms and coaches involved. Make them pay and leave the athletes alone.

The program is what is supposed to suffer.

You can't harm the program without harming the kids. It's a by product.

Same as the argument here: People are unhappy with the AD, so they don't want to donate. But if you don't donate, the kids suffer the same.

Collateral damage, I say.

Totally agree. People tried to make the same argument with SMU back in the day. They'll have the ability to transfer without sitting out a year, so I wouldn't worry too much about the student athletes. They'll be fine.

Well I think in theory that is correct but I would imagine that the process still affects the kids severely. Are we looking for a punishment for the institutions or to remedy future issues? Why not get rid of the employees involved and leave the programs in place? The program itself should not be the target or take the impact of the criminal actions of individuals imo.

SMU is just now coming back 30 years later and I don't think that that was the intent. In fact I believe that other infractions similar to that of SMU have been committed but there was hesitation to shut down programs. This situation will indirectly punish kids and there has to be a better answer. I had a friend that had a scholarship to play for SMU when the shit hit the fan and he never recovered athletically. Somewhat unfair to individuals who invest years and were not involved.

Maybe a sledge hammer isn't the best tool is all I am saying.

It's also unfair to the untold number if innocent children that were molested under the guise of the Penn State Football Program. That football program is now tarnished with the anguish of these children and the only way to remedy that is to make it go away for a couple of years and rebuild from scratch with a fresh start. It may take 20-30 years to recover, but these kids and their families will have their whole life ahead of them and may never recover.